Friday, September 4, 2009

"I myself am convinced that the theory of evolution, especially the extent to which it's been applied, will be one of the great jokes in the history books of the future. Posterity will marvel that so very flimsy and dubious an hypothesis could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it has."

-Malcolm Muggeridge (world famous journalist and philosopher), Pascal Lectures, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.

15 comments:

Robert Head said...

Well, I tend to praise all the things I don't trash. Go figure! Have you ever thought of people you could praise rather than condemn? How exactly are you judging my blog? And how exactly do you expect me to judge yours in return?

Robert Head said...

So you're saying that the theory of evolution is the next theory of creationism? Ha, ha, ha, ha!

Glen20 said...

Well, I myself am convinced that creationism, especially the extent to which it's been applied, is one of the great jokes in the history books. Posterity will marvel that so very flimsy and dubious an idea could be accepted with the incredible credulity that it was.

Rabhimself said...

How's you're appendix holding up makarios? Is it helping you eat that raw vegetation you love so much?

Oh wait, it doesn't help you do that because you don't eat raw vegetation do you?

Well, why ever do you have an appendix then? Did the supremely intelligent creator just put it there for the hell of it? Just so it can become infected, ensuring that a % of us every year have to have surgery to remove it before it explodes and poisons us to death?

Or is it perhaps because long ago, ancestors of yours developed this organ to eat said vegetation, and it still remains in present day man?

Nah.

God put it there as some sort of hideous, infection-prone ornament for his amusement. Obviously.

Don't like that?

How many wisdom teeth do you have?

Like the appendix, many years ago ancestors of ours developed them which aided in biting through tough material like bone, and the same result regarding likelyhood to survive occurred.

4 wisdom teeth was the norm for centuries.

Now though, all over the planet, some people are being born without some or all of them.

Why?

Could it be we no longer require them, so when they are absent through our evolution, people without them aren't lost through natural selection?

I have no wisdom teeth in my jaws at all.

That might not convince you but makes perfect sense to many.

Makarios said...

Are you suggesting that mutations happens based upon need or the lack thereof? Are you suggesting the evolution happens based upon need? I'm sorry, I can't stop smiling.

salvage said...

No, evolution discards what it doesn't need... sometimes. For instance research the gestation of sperm whales to see evolution being kinda sloppy.

As for the list of human physical design flaws, that's just a few exaples, there are our knees (super vital joint totally exposed and fragile!) our nasal system (ask any plumber if that's how they'd design it!) the fact that our penis is for sex and waste disposal! I mean we freakin' ew! It's like putting your kid's see-saw in a cesspool. There are our eyes, why did your god give me such crappy eyesight? Why did we have to fix that error with contacts? Why does my brother and father both have diabetes? With just prayer they'd be dead by now with their bum pancreas. And how about that sickle-cell anaemia? What is up with that?

Oh please don't tell me that you deny evolution, please you're not one of those as well. That you sit there going "I didn't come from no monkey!"

Which is true, that would be silly.

We came from something that looked like a lemur.

The Atheist Missionary said...

I myself am convinced that evolution deniers will be seen as the great jokers of the 21st century in history databanks of the future. Posterity will marvel at the fact that millions of otherwise sane individuals devoured this intellectual jello.

- The Atheist Missionary (skeptic and legend in his own mind), University of Common Sense, Ontario, Canada

Makarios said...

No, we came from something that looked like a worm. What you call design flaws are the results of our fallen nature. With sin came destruction, decay, sickness and death. This is not how it was meant to be and this is not how it's going to be.

For me, this life is as bad / difficult as it's going to get. Unless you change, this life is as good / easy as it's going to get.

Rabhimself said...

No makarios, the point is, you have an appendix cause your ancient ancestors evolved one to aid them in digesting raw vegetation, as a result they can survive better -> survival of the fittest?

And the useless organ is still there.

The appendix is found in koala bears for example, but it is much bigger, relative to their size.

I'm basically saying you hav these useless traits because at one time in the past, to your ancestor(s), they were useful, but since then we have evolved - but still have these useless traits.

If you are going to pretend you don't understand what i'm getting at then fine. But please, don't take the piss.

Let me remind you that you are the one that believes in the story of Noah's Ark. Something that a sharp child would be able to pick obvious flaws at with ease.

The Atheist Missionary said...

Re: Mak's belief in the story of Noah's ark.

It's like I enter any academic setting to debate any point of contention in that academic realm (take your pick - biology, philosophy, mathematics, cosmology, physics, etc.). I seem well read in the topic. People start to listen to me and think: "Hey, this guy really seems to know what he's talking about." Then, about 20 minutes into the discussion, I mention my imaginary friend Lenny who sits on my shoulder and loves me dearly. For some reason, everyone stops listening to what I have to say ....

salvage said...

>No, we came from something that looked like a worm.

Well tons of animals on this planet can make that claim, the lemur-alike is our divergence on the tree of life.

>What you call design flaws are the results of our fallen nature.

Oh lord love a duck! You're one of those! The kind that like to bolt their mythology onto science like a New Zealand cellphone with a camera ("Flight of the Conchords" reference, if you don't get it shame on you).

So. Adam and Eve didn't have appendixes? They grew after they were tricked into eating the fruit? They had knees that made practical sense? Nasal passages with proper plumbing? Etc.?

>This is not how it was meant to be and this is not how it's going to be.

Once again your god is curiously limited in his ability to get what he wants.

Makarios said...

Are you saying the species don't change and evolve over time?

salvage said...

>Are you saying the species don't change and evolve over time?

Now you're just being silly on purpose.

Makarios said...

Then explain your comments 'cause that's what you seem to be saying.

Rabhimself said...

I agree with salvage, you know exactly what he is getting at, just as i suspect you did with me, but you are simply being deliberately obtuse.