Monday, September 21, 2009

Freedom In or From Christ?

“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.
(Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814)

It’s true. But why? We who have been born of love, set free from the law, breathing the clean air of forgiveness, how is it that we so soon turn back to rules? And how is it that we attempt to force non Christians to live by OUR guidelines?

Living life without Christ Jesus is punishment enough. Broken relationships, friendships that require layers of self-protection. Unfulfilled desires and longings. Meandering from one world-view to the next. No, non Christians don’t need us to help them to have a crappy life. They can do that all on their own. But why do we so quickly return to hunkering down under the mantle of rule-making, rule-obeying, ruling others with rules and rules and more rules?

Jesus set us free, free to enjoy life, free to know the difference between life-enhancing and life-destroying behaviours. I say, let the people go. While we do need members of government who are Christians, the last thing we need is a Christian government.


feeno said...


You possess much wisdom. Christians should focus more on the next life, not so much this one. Jesus said himself "My kingdom is not of this world".
We act as if God's plans can be thwarted or helped based on who is in a particular office. They don't rejoice in Heaven when we pass "Christian" legislation, they only rejoice when some one accepts Christ.

Dueces, feeno

Makarios said...

Make God bless you and keep you and love you with the greatest love in the universe.

good night feeno

Rabhimself said...

Feeno, just a small point that i'm sure you have no choice but to accept-

You seem to think alot of people are atheistic because they are 'mad at god'.

I noticed the terrible analogy with the leprechauns.

I tell you this feeno, if the majority of people in the world suddenly believed in leprechauns (albeit different leprechauns) you would soon find alot of people rallying against it.

Especially when there is no evidence for them, and the idea starts to get forced upon children.

I'm sure you can see where this is going.

feeno said...

Hello Rab

I know it's a lame analogy, but it's one I hear all the time. Or unicorns or flying spaghetti monsters. However once again the reason those above that are mention don't raise concerns are because of what you said, no evidence for them. If there was no evidence for God, then he'd raise the same stink as those others.
Btw, I wasn't trying to be insensitive.

I would be interested to know what you think "force" is when these ideas are taught to children.

Later Rabby, feeno

Rabhimself said...

Children are very open to suggestion and vulnerable to exploitation with regards to what is real and what is not.

Santa Claus being the prime example. Only when they get to a certain age where critical thinking increases can they see through it, and then adults admit its a sham.

But when kids are told about god and jesus, or any other religion, when they ask the same questions they are swatted back, and still being at an impressionable age, begin to wrongly accept the existence of god as fact.

And say what you will, but for all you know, if there is a divine creator, he is just as likely to be a lepprechaun as any god you describe.

There is no irrefutable, unambiguous evidence for the existence of god, more over, your god. Full stop.