Thursday, December 3, 2009

Atheists and Censorship

There’s nothing quite as amusing as watching the atheist’s love affair with censorship. They seem obsessed with what people are thinking and saying. There’s an old joke that a Puritan is a person who is certain that someone somewhere is enjoying himself. Well that pretty much sums up atheists as well. An atheist is a person who is certain that someone somewhere is thinking about Christ at Christmas; that someone is praying openly; that someone is using Jesus name in a reverent manner; that someone somewhere is giving thanks to God for all the good that has come into her life.

An atheist is a person who demands, and will not be satisfied until all the people of the world think, and believe as s/he does.

As Hemant Metha says, “I don’t believe God exists and neither should you.”

And if schools need to be monitored, if children need to be removed from parents and reeducated, then that’s what will be done. Free thinking / Fascism cannot be allowed until the atheist agenda has been established.


Ginx said...

Wow, really? Where to begin...

On atheists and censorship: atheists are some of the most likely people to let you say anything you want. Atheists are bombarded with opposing views on a regular basis, so we're all pretty much used to it (some of us even go to places that discuss opposing views, in an attempt to better understand, crazy people!). It tends to be other believers who are so gung-ho anti-anything (not to be anti-Semitic, but it tends to be Jewish lawyers and even ultra-fundamentalist Christians who see the ridiculous amount of pagan influence in Christmas). Atheists don't care what you think, so long as you don't try to enact public policies that push your faith.

Regarding Christmas: I'm doing an entire post on this, but suffice to say my thesis is that the only people who have no right to be celebrating Christmas would probably be Christians. There's really nothing Christian about the holiday, just the lie that it's Jesus' birthday (which it most certainly isn't). The term "happy holidays" is far more accurate, but I for one couldn't care less what we call it. Christmas is on a Friday this year, which is a day named after the Norse God Frey. I'm not complaining about that, either.

On "reeducation": For one thing, there are cases where that happens, because people are sick. You have a problem with the children being taken from the Mormon polygamist compound? I hope not. Religious freedom is a gift for those who wish to practice their faith, not an excuse behind which to hide private oppression.

Anonymous said...

I totally agree with Ginx. You claim that Atheists love censorship without providing any examples. When have Atheists gone out of their way to censor people? It's exactly the opposite! Religious people go out of their way to censor anyone who disagrees with them all the time! They even kill people to do it!

And Atheists don't give a shit if the entire world thinks like them or not, they just want religion to leave them alone and to stay out of government. Religious people on the other hand have commands in their religion to go and spread their faith until it takes over the world.

As for schools. Pray in schools all you want, Atheists don't care. What they DO care about is prayers being led by school members for the rest of the school, and FORCED prayer. Nobody cares if you pray at your desk.

Don't even try to play the "help help I'm being persecuted card" Atheists are the most persecuted and hated group on the planet, and for no good reason other than religious bigotry and hate.

Makarios said...

atheists are some of the most likely people to let you say anything you want."

It sure feels like the majority of atheist blogs says, "Comments will appear after blogger approval."

Regarding Christmas"

Last year I remember some atheist trying to organise a boycott of stores that played Christmas music at Christmas.

It is not science per se, not even evolution as such, but a special brand of anti-God-Darwinism that atheists want to be taught in the schools. A belief in God must be removed from ALL children’s minds.

As Richard Dawkins preaches, “Faith is one of the world’s great evils, comparable to the small-pox virus but harder to eradicate.” The real reason that atheists want the exclusive teaching of evolution in schools is not just that atheists see it as being scientific but that they deem it to be anti-religion.

Dawkins again, “Religion is capable of driving people to such dangerous folly that faith seems to me to qualify as a kind of mental illness.”

Christopher Hitchens writes, “How can we ever know how many children had their psychological and physical lives irreparably maimed by the compulsory inculcation of faith?” The atheist answer? Inculcate all children with atheist beliefs.

Daniel Dennett, “How much do we regard children as being the property of their parents? Should [Christian parents] be free to impose their beliefs on their children?”

Again, the atheist answer is to impose atheist beliefs upon not just their children but upon everyone’s children.

Christopher Hitchens suggests that atheists become the defenders of the world’s children, “Parents don’t literally own their children . . . [Christian parents] ought to be held accountable by outsiders (read atheists, perhaps the drunken Hitchens himself) for their guardianship, which does imply that outsiders have a right to interfere.”

Psychologist Nicholas Humphrey, “ [Christian] Parents, have no god-given license to enculturate their children in whatever way they choose . . . to bring them up in an atmosphere of dogma . . . or to insist they follow the straight and narrow paths of their own faith.” While totally ignoring a Christian’s God-given mandate to raise up our children in the fear of the Lord,

I’ve personally experienced this developing atheist dogma from an atheist blogger. His stated hope is that our children will be taken from us to keep them from being taught about Christianity. This of course implies the hope that someone else will raise our children and teach them the tenets of his faith.

Hemant Metha - "I don’t believe God exists and neither should you.”

That may sound open minded to you but it doesn't to me.

Ginx said...

I think there's nothing wrong with the government protecting children from their parents. Parents are only given a free license to do whatever they want in the Bible, a book I reject on several ethical grounds (least of all the strict obedience demanded of all subordinates, despite circumstance).

What you need to realize is that atheists aren't taking over anything. There's just not many of us, get over it. We don't want your kids, we want your kids to grow up into adults who can make the choice regarding which faith is right for them (which shockingly might not be yours).

But relax, religion can't be eradicated. Look at China and the USSR: they both tried to specifically attack religion, and religion remained. Even in your worst nightmare, you still won't lose, so chill.

Regarding evolution, it has nothing to do with "anti-God-Darwinism." Nothing is being taught to the exclusion of God, because God has no place in the classroom to begin with.

You need to relax on evolution, too. Your whole attitude mimics that of those who opposed heliocentricity. "If one thing in the Bible is shown to be wrong, it will all be ignored! This Copernicus guy must be silenced!" Except Christianity didn't go anywhere... Why? Because religions don't succeed and fail based on minutiae.

You're telling me for the sake of children who may want to grow up to be scientists who cure a disease that would otherwise kill someone you love too early, that we have to lie to our kids and say "Yeah, that whole evolution thing is nonsense, actually God spoke it all into existence, and I'm sure one day He'll speak a vaccine for all the horrible diseases into existence."

Creationism is so monumentally retarded that it honestly makes me question the species of those who adhere to it. If I am Homo sapiens, I suggest this new species be Homo gullibilus. You're looking for evidence of the missing link? Got a mirror handy?

Makarios said...

we want your kids to grow up into adults who can make the choice regarding which faith is right for them"

Ya, like the new atheist poster with the two kids on it. And what's happening on the poster? An adult atheist is putting words into the kid's mouths telling them what to say. Priceless!

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with evolution. I'm saying that there is something wrong with saying there can be design without a designer and that life can be created without a consiousness. See tomorrow's post.

Ginx said...

Atheists can't display or acknowledge kids? Is that a Christian only image? Did the Bible invent procreation, and therefore atheists have no right to interact with children?

Children are born free of our adult squabbles. They aren't born Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, or even atheist (in the sense that they aren't born deny the existence of gods, though they are born free of any concept of the divine). They are born trusting, especially of those who provide their care. There's not a single thing wrong with pointing out the fact that impressing religion (or even atheism) on children is a bad thing. Children should not be little religious projects. How would you feel if I raised my children to belittle religion? I'm sure you would oppose it.

It's not a question of recruitment, it is a question of pain. Forcing religion on others is painful to them (ask my wife). People in a religion tend to think of it as a club they're proud to be a member of, but people who don't fit into that religion tend to find it to be a club that keeps beating them over the head. It's best for both the religious adherents and those who don't accept it to allow the malcontents to be left alone.