Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Ya Like Puzzles?

My wife enjoys jigsaw puzzles. She has boxes of them stacked in the storeroom. Sometimes, like Christmas holidays, an armload of puzzles will be brought upstairs and she and the kids will spend time visiting about stuff while putting these things together. Once in a while, when cleaning up, the kids will put a boxtop on the wrong box, i.e., the picture on the box will not match the picture that’s made when the puzzle is put together.

In a sense, the puzzle boxtops are like our world-view. For example, I’m a Christian because the picture, or the world view presented by the teaching of Jesus best matches the pieces of life’s puzzle. Though we observe the same pieces of the puzzle, atheists have chosen a different boxtop, a different world view. That’s a problem for atheists and here’s why. I’ll use the Singularity as an example.

In putting together pieces of the puzzle (evidence) for the beginning of the universe, atheists are finding the picture that the evidence is creating does not match the materialist boxtop. As most people know, you don't need to have very many pieces of the puzzle in place before you recognise that you've got the wrong boxtop.

Now, if that happened to you, if the puzzle pieces were coming together in a manner that was creating a picture that didn’t match the picture on the top of the box from which the puzzle pieces came, what would you conclude?

Any normal person would conclude that they have the wrong boxtop - the wrong world view. The puzzle pieces (evidence) can’t be wrong. They are what they are. However, our world view CAN be wrong.

Remember, our boxtop, our world view isn’t the puzzle itself. The boxtop is just a guide; a point of reference that helps us make sense of the puzzle itself.

In a case where the boxtop doesn’t match the puzzle, any normal person would search among the many and varied puzzle boxes lying around. A normal person would set aside any personal preference and find the right boxtop that fits the picture that our pieces of the puzzle is making.

In a rather strange and pathetic attempt to hide their mistake, instead of allowing the evidence to determine the correct world view, atheists are trying impose their world view onto the evidence. Rather than looking for the right boxtop, like any normal person would do, atheists actually believe that it’s IMPOSSIBLE for them to have the wrong boxtop. Why, they’re logical and reasonable and intelligent. How could they have the wrong boxtop? When the picture that is coming together in the puzzle doesn’t match the boxtop, atheists don’t say their world view is wrong. Instead, they say that the puzzle itself is wrong, the puzzle pieces, they say, aren’t actually what they appear to be.

That sounds ridiculous of course, but atheists are doing exactly that.

In atheist world:
. What appears to be a stream in the puzzle itself, is actually the race track on the boxtop.

. What appears to be a bush in the puzzle itself, is actually the tire of a race car on the boxtop.

. What appears to be evidence of design, say the atheists, is actually the precision placement of broken pieces of concrete that comes with any great explosion. Pfft!

. What appears to be specified, complex, coded, formulated information, something that all observation says only comes from an Intelligent Agent, atheists say this is just the lucky placement of mutated material goo.

This reinterpretation of the evidence takes place among not just the brute beasts on the street but even among intelligent atheists in white coats.

In regard to this reinterpretation of the puzzle pieces, Francis Crick states, “Biologists must CONSTANTLY KEEP IN MIND that what they see was not designed, but rather evolved.”

Imagine! Everything the atheist biologist examines screams design, but because of his pre determined and erroneous world view, he has to say, “No design. No Design. NO DESIGN! Those puzzle pieces might look like design but they’re actually something else. The pieces are wrong and my boxtop is right.”

How scientific is that!

Atheists seem to think that picking a world view is simply a matter of preference.

It isn’t!

The picture on the boxtop has to match the picture when the pieces of the puzzle are put together.

15 comments:

Unknown said...

I love how you sucker us in with the story and then proceed into "Atheist World," the fiction land of Mak's imagination where giant evolutionary leaps not only in biology, but also chemistry are required in order to create life. Never mind that all the simple building blocks are observed to be found commonly, even in dead space matter like asteroids and comets...

At least you found a new format to keep us interested!

Strawman Athiest. said...

No design. No Design. NO DESIGN! Those puzzle pieces might look like design but they’re actually something else. The pieces are wrong and my boxtop is right.

Thesauros said...

"all the simple building blocks are observed to be found commonly, even in dead space matter like asteroids and comets"

Well, "all" is a bit of a stretch but what should that surprise?

The stuff of the universe is the stuff of us - just like the Bible says.

Science has told us that the universe came into being out of nothing - just like the Bible says,

Science also tells us that we, humans, were not created out of nothing - just like the Bible says.

“What is seen is made from what is not seen.”

Quite a statement for a Bronze Age Book.

“The Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.”

The universe came from nothing while life itself came from existing material of nature - just like the Bible says.

Anonymous said...

Science has told us that the universe came into being out of nothing - just like the Bible says,

singularity is nothing?

Anonymous said...

So where is this evidence you speak of?

Chris Mackey said...

Anonymous said...

So where is this evidence you speak of
?

You're setting yourself up for another one of Rod's cut and paste arguments from ignorance.

Thesauros said...

So what would you do Chris, if you had someone ask a question this week and you answered it. Then you had another person ask the same question next week. And another person ask the same question the week after, and that goes on for three years - what would you do? Type and type and type again and again and again? I doubt it. The same question gets the same answer. And the answer is the same whether typed or pasted. So what would you do?

There was some other goof awhile back who tried to tell me that I could only say things once - ON MY BLOG!
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Anon x 2 - "So where is this evidence you speak of?"

Big Bang cosmology tells us that everything came from literally nothing at the Singularity. That's the evidence.

Zzzst said...

There was some other goof awhile back who tried to tell me that I could only say things once - ON MY BLOG!

You're imagining it. Cut and paste repeats were pointed out.
Where did anyone ever tell you that you could only say something once?

Zzzst said...

That's your evidence of your god?
Weak.

Thesauros said...

That's only one piece of evidence that' available - however - even if it was the only piece of evidence it's a whole lot better than evidence AGAINST, which is what materialism is dealing with.

Zzzst said...

And it's not even evidence for your position!
And you're now claiming the weight of evidence is against materialism*?

Words cannot express. (facepalm)

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*the theory of materialism holds that matter exists; that all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including consciousness) are the result of material interactions. (The expanded dictionary)

Unknown said...

Yes yes, we get it... the universe must have come from "nothing," and in order to do that you need gods. Nevermind not you won't find any scientist who says the universe came from nothing, nor will you ever get an explanation of the origin of gods.

Thesauros said...

Are you saying that Big Bang Cosmology does NOT say that everything came from nothing? Or are we going back to the atheist who said that the "universe" used to be a tiny hot speck floating in a tiny circle of space? Are you saying that Ginx? Talk about a facepalm! Geez louise you guys are stupid!

"the theory of materialism holds that matter exists; that all things are composed of material and all phenomena (including
consciousness) are the result of material interactions"

There was NOTHING material in existence!! How is that NOT a blow to materialism? Especially when nothing comes into existence without an external cause?

It's been known for centuries that our options are two and only two - Either:

Matter is eternal - OR

An external Cause is eternal

It's one or the other and we know that matter can't be eternal. So what does that leave us?

This is where atheists say, "Well, we don't how the impossible could be possible i.e., Everything came from nothing by nothing, all we know is, there was no intelligence in existence prior to us - so there!

Anonymous said...

Does matter exist?
Are things made of matter?

Anonymous said...

An external Cause is eternal

That doesn't follow.