Thursday, July 9, 2009

Religion is the cause of War

That of course is what atheists would like us to believe.

“More people have been killed because of religion than for any other reason.”

Google “20th Century Wars.” Is it just me or do most of these seem secular in nature i.e., a struggle for power, money and territory? In fact, regarding
the Chinese invasion of Tibet,
the October Revolution,
the Russian Civil War,
the Sino-Indian War,
the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia,
the Chinese Civil War
and other conflicts around the globe, both past and present, religion is nowhere to be seen while atheism is front and centre.

Actually, may I suggest a good exercise to see just how bigoted an atheist you've become? Read down the list of what the war is called, and then keep track of how much time you spend trying to read into it a religious angle. It might even be interesting to measure on some type of scale your frustration levels as war after war after war shows no signs of religious conflict.

6 comments:

J Curtis said...

Religion has been the primary cause of less than 7% of all wars throughout the course of history. When the so-called "religion of peace" (Islam) is removed from the equation, that figure is closer to 3.5%. Mak....how many wars have been caused by regimes that were atheistic in their mindset? Just curious.

Shane Doyle said...

I can't speak for the atheists you say you have spoken to. I can tell you that if you look at your quote you will see it doesn't claim that religion is the only reason for war, only that more people have been killed in the name of religion for any other reason. Any other reason implies an admission that there are other reasons. Secondly if you look at your list you will notice two things. The first you already noticed, that there isn't a primarily religious angle to them. The second is that they total a much lower casualty rate then the other wars of the twentieth century that were of a much more dogmatic nature. It is not just religion that is always the cause but my problem isn't exclusively with religion but with dogma. It is dogma like Nazism that was responsible for many more deaths than those in your list, and because religion promotes dogma and blind faith as virtue I am opposed to it. Like I said the quote only states the claim the more people have been killed in the name of religion than for any other reason, and they have, naming a few of the ones that were for the "other reasons" referenced in the quote that equal a smaller death toll than those that were in the name of religion doesn't say anything. It's a nonpoint.

Shane Doyle said...

By the way I am still waiting for you to respond to my answer to the comment you left on my blog.

Rabhimself said...

I just want to add that no atrocities (to my knowledge) have been committed purely in the name of atheism.

Yes, atheists have done terrible things, but they do no do them on the basis of their lack in belief. They do them because they are bad mother fuckers.

There is no such thing as atheistic terrorists, who carry out their atrocities in the name of 'no god'.

Equally, no wars have been declared in the name of 'no god'.

Còmhradh said...

Last comment:

"Religion is the cause of War"

That of course is what atheists would like us to believe.


I categorically deny that.

Economic factors have been the cause of every war in the history of man.

Religion is just a convenient way to get the troops marching, but it has never been the cause of any war.

Thesauros said...

Comrade - Very good insight. Thank you.

Richard Dawkins has famously said, “Individual atheists may do evil things but they don’t do evil things in the name of religion.”

No, atheists do evil because their atheism spawns a seething hatred for religion as demonstrated by Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Honecker, Castro, Ho, Marx, Engels, Lenin, Kim, Ceausescu and virtually every atheist that blogs about religion.

The point of their agendas is, ‘Religion is harmful. Get rid of it and everything will begin to move toward civil society.’ Marx and Engels put it bluntly, “Abolish all religion and all morality.”

The fallacy in the belief that peace will reign if religion is dismantled is seen in the fact that in the wars I listed, religion is nowhere to be seen while atheism is front and centre.

Richard Dawkins simply cannot bring himself to admit that atheism was the driving force from which atheists, directing governments made up exclusively of atheists was obsessed with spreading anti-God propaganda, and specialized in the murder of millions of believers. Atheist Soviet rulers systematically and efficiently destroyed the majority of churches and killed the majority of religious leaders during a period from 1918 - 1941.

This was not individual atheists perpetrating evil. This was individual atheists doing evil in the name of atheism. They were perpetrating evil, all according to the atheist agenda to eliminate religion from society.

Now atheists would have you believe that it was due to communism that Christians were savagely killed and imprisoned. Hmm, let’s see.

Communism is in direct conflict with Christianity?

Atheism is in direct conflict with Christianity?

Gee, I wonder which is the most obviously antagonistic toward the concept of God?

Because it is so absurd, I can only assume that Richard Dawkins finds the following amusing. When he’s confronted with the atrocities done in the name of atheism, Dawkins says with a straight face, “Well, Stalin also had a mustache. Maybe we should blame the deaths on that.”

Pathetic and pitiful more correctly describes Dawkins’ attempt to confuse the obvious.

Dawkins and friends can’t even connect the dots to recognise how close they are to encouraging that very scenario to repeat itself. Like Russian atheists before him, in “Letter to a Christian Nation” Harris bemoans, “the failure of our schools to announce the death of God in a way that each generation can understand.” He even goes on to say that some ideas are so dangerous that people may need to be killed simply for having those ideas. If you don’t see this as a dangerously secular idea, you are not an observer of history.

The fact is that in the 20th century, a third of the world saw atheists pronounce the death of God on billboards, in schools, government controlled publications, over the radio and in secret jails where torture was used in an attempt to force Christians to deny their faith. As in today’s atheist China, secret worship services in homes, warehouses, and even groups meeting in the forests and fields were forcibly broken up. Those who attended were beaten or killed or taken to reeducation camps, never to be seen again. In the 20th century, over a hundred million people have been killed under the banner of atheism in it’s hatred of God and the religion that worships Him. This pattern continues to this very day and there is no reason to expect that atheists who possess the needed power will stop anytime soon.

Atheism in the hands of those whose hearts are filled with hate and anger, and in those who resist attempts to rein in immoral behaviour makes those people dangerous - Period.

Murder, stealing, adultery, drunkenness and drug addiction, bragging, violence, bitterness, envy, lying, gossip, strife, backbiters, hating God, insolence, pride, coveting etc. is the noise that people make in the absence of a life changing relationship with Jesus.