Friday, August 28, 2009

Here’s what you do . . .

There’s at least a couple atheists who have slipped into true atheist mode and said that,

“There’s a good reason that the prophecies of Jesus’ life death and resurrection “appear” so accurate. The disciples looked back into the Old Testament and picked out anything that seemed to apply to Jesus’ life, death and resurrection. In reality, those things weren’t even prophecies. Anybody could have done that and applied it to virtually anybody on the planet. Heck, with a little manipulation on my part, even I could come out looking like the Messiah.”

Here’s what you do. Take a book. Any book. In fact pick a hundred or a thousand or even ten thousand books and search them carefully until you find another book that coheres with Jesus being:
. Betrayed by a friend
. Sold for 30 Pieces of silver
. Money "thrown" into God’s house
. His best friends would all run away and desert Him
. People would lie about Him in order to get Him killed
. He never said a thing to defend Himself, such as “That’s a lie” or “I didn’t do that.”
. He was killed by crucifixion
. He asked God to forgive those who were killing Him
. Hated without cause
. Friends stood afar off
. Soldiers would gamble for His clothes
. They’d offer Him a pain killer to drink
. His forsaken cry - “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me.”
. Committed himself to God - “Into thy hand I commit My spirit.”
. Bones not broken
. His side pierced with a spear
. Darkness at noon
. Buried in a rich man’s grave

Find a book that tells us that Jesus would be:
. Born in the obscure town of Bethlehem
. During the reign of Herod
. In a stable
. That He would be betrayed by a friend, a member of His inner circle
. That He would be crucified - not stoned, stabbed, strangled, clubbed, pushed off a cliff etc.
. That people would taunt Him and mock Him and turn 180 degrees from their position of a day before.
. That He’d be buried in a rich man’s grave
And when you’ve found that book or those books (it shouldn’t be too difficult given today’s technology, show them to me.

Or why don't you use the Old Testament, or any book to show that someone else was the Messiah? Remember though, he has to come to the temple in Jerusalem and he has to do it before AD 70.

Ready. Set! GO!!

5 comments:

Flute said...

Sorry, I'm unclear on what you are asking?

Are you wanting something like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_messiah_claimants ?

Makarios said...

You really can not get this can you?

It isn't enough to say, "I am Messiah."

You also have to have these and other prophecies come true in your life. Not some the prophecies. ALL of the prophecies. The person who has ALL these prophecies come true in His life has to have them come true prior to AD 70. In fact, if Jesus wasn't Messiah, then no one is, because He is the only individual for whom ALL the evidence fits.

You realy can not get this. Can you?

Glen20 said...

Let's see this list of prophecies from the Old Testament so we all can look them up and see for ourselves.

Glen20 said...

LOL, reading a Jewish site about how Jesus didn't fulfill all the prophecies... I guess noone is the messiah then..
AD70 is based on Daniel 9 right?
"Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people and your holy city to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy." ?

Makarios said...

It's too long so I'll make a post for you.