Tuesday, June 30, 2009

“I don’t WANT God to exist!”

“I’m talking of the fear of religion itself. I speak from experience, being strongly subject to this fear myself; I WANT atheism to be true. It isn’t just that I don’t believe in God and, naturally, hope that I’m right in my belief; It’s not that I hope there is no God! I don’t WANT there to be a God; I don’t WANT the universe to be like that. I am curious whether there is anyone who is genuinely indifferent as to whether there is a God - anyone who, whatever his actual belief about the matter, doesn’t particularly WANT either one of the answers to be correct.”
atheist philosopher Thomas Nage.

9 comments:

PersonalFailure said...

you know what, Makarios? This is the fourth quote from an "atheist philosopher" that you put up on your website that I could not verify.

proof or i'm calling shennanigans.

Thesauros said...

Well, it came from another book or off the internet somewhere, and I've had it sitting in a file for awhile. I'm not going to look him up but are you saying there is no record of his existence? And if he does exist why do you doubt that he would say something like that? It doesn't seem unlikely to me.

Ooops! Sorry. I did look it up. It's Thomas Nagel. I forgot the L. Me and names. It drives my wife crazy. Stuff like that's just not important to me. As long as I'm close, it's all good.

Anyhow it's from his book, "The Last Word" New York: Oxford University Press, 1997, page 130. I hope you're impressed because it's highly unlikely that I'll do this for you ever again :-)

Còmhradh said...

"Rationalism has always had a more religious flavor than empiricism. Even without God, the idea of a natural sympathy between the deepest truths of nature and the deepest layers of the human mind, which can be exploited to allow gradual development of a truer and truer conception of reality, makes us more at home in the universe than is secularly comfortable. The thought that the relation between mind and the world is something fundamental makes many people in this day and age nervous. I believe this is one manifestation of a fear of religion which has large and often pernicious consequences for modern intellectual life.



My guess is that this cosmic authority problem is not a rare condition and that it is responsible for much of the scientism and reductionism of our time. One of the tendencies it supports is the ludicrous overuse of evolutionary biology to explain everything about life, including everything about the human mind. Darwin enabled modern secular culture to heave a great collective sigh of relief, by apparently providing a way to eliminate purpose, meaning, and design as fundamental features of the world."

Guess who that's a quote from.

The Maryland Crustacean said...

It reminds me of Alduous Huxley, who in "Ends and Means" was honest enough to state the following:

“I had motives for not wanting the world to have a meaning; consequently assumed that it had none and was able without any difficulty to find satisfying reasons for this assumption….The philosopher who finds no meaning in the world is not concerned exclusively with a problem in metaphysics; he is also concerned to prove that there is no valid reason why he should personally not do as he wants to do…. For myself, as no doubt for most of my contemporaries, the philosophy of meaningless was essentially an instrument of liberation….”

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Anonymous said...

I think people need to stop and question why they worship God. It's not that I totally abolish any possibility of God, but if God does exist, why mus we all live out our lives in constant servitude, grazing our knees and bowing our heads in awe? Religion is flawed, even if it isn't just a control mechanism gone out of hand.

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