C. What evidence do you have for atheism?
A. What do you mean?
C. Evidence. What evidence to you have for believing that God does not exist?
A. We’ll there isn’t any
C. So God could exist
A. He could but I deny that He does
C. Can’t you do better than that? Don’t you have evidence that God doesn’t exist?
A. There isn't such a thing. You can’t prove a negative.
C. But why not just show the evidence for a natural cause for the universe?
That would prove that God doesn't exist.
A. There isn’t any evidence for a natural cause.
C. But you believe that's what happened.
A. Yes.
C. Without any evidence. Interesting.
Well why not just show evidence that a natural
process brought matter into existence?
A. There isn’t such evidence.
C. But that is what you believe. Right?
A. Yes, but . .
C. Without any evidence. I always thought that was kind of a creed or something for atheists. You fancy yourselves to be scientifically minded so you only go where the
evidence leads and all that.
A. That's exactly what I do.
C. No. That's not what you do. At least show evidence that a natural process can turn non life into life.
A. There isn’t any evidence for that but Dawkins SAID that's what happened.
C. Because he has proof?
A. No, he doesn't have any scientific proof. But he seriously believes it.
C. Isn't Dawkins the one who said that he's wary of strongly held beliefs in the absence of evidence?
A. Maybe
C. Yes, yes he is. I'm sure that's who said that. Doesn't that make him a hypocrite? or maybe just a liar. Anyhow, if you don't have any evidence for the most important parts of your belief system, just how DO you support your faith in atheism?
A. I just believe it
C. Hmmm, interesting.
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You wrote: So God could exist. Atheists will grant you that. Now let's start talking about the relative probabilities: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0nT3ENCGSM
Atheist: What evidence do you have for Christianity?
Average Christian: I have faith.
A: Well, that doesn't help me, I want some proof.
AC: I have this holy book.
A: And the other religions have their holy books.
AC: It contains miracles!
A: So do the other holy books.
AC: Bible prophecy.
A: My Muslim friends tell me the Koran contains true prophecy, even the Mormon guy claims his holy book is filled with true prophecy.
AC: There are things you can't explain.
A: ...Doesn't mean a god did them.
AC: IF YOU DON'T OBEY MY LOVING GOD, HE WILL TORTURE YOU FOREVER AND EVER!
A: Without proof, your threats seem empty.
AC: My dad believed it. My mum beleived it. My society believes it. I just believe it.
A: Interesting.
Um, there was an experiment done in the 50s, called the Uley-Miller experiment, which recreated in a lab, the conditions which formed the first ribonucleotides earlier on in Earth's history. There is evidence that life wasn't created by god.
But since you seem to know so much about science and atheism, you probably already knew that.
Edit:
Urey-Miller.
That was a typo on my part.
For more information, check out this site:
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/05/ribonucleotides/
Good grief man! The experiment was a bust. NASA showed that Miller and Co. assumed chemicals that didn't exist on pirmordal earth. You're kidding me, right? This is a joke, right?
That's not what NASA say...
Miller tried using and electrical charge in water, hydrogen, methane and ammonia. Darwinists got all excited until scientists at NASA showed that early earth was mostly made up of carbon dioxide and ammonia. Not only was it shown that life could not have arisen out of non-life through random chemical interaction, it was also shown that life involves a lot more than the generation of amino acids.
You might want to ask why Miller and Oparin used those particular chemicals? Because both he and Oparin knew that if they started with inert gases like nitrogen and carbon dioxide they wouldn’t react in the way they wanted. The deck was stacked in advance to get the results they wanted.
Ah Presuppositions, we all have them and they shape our worldview. An atheistic worldview would be impossible to change without God's intervention. Atheism is purely illogical though. That is why Atheists were debunked forever.
tinyurl.com/Atheistsdebunked
"Not only was it shown that life could not have arisen out of non-life through random chemical interaction..."
No, the experiment and the other experiments have shown that building blocks of life could have resulted from chemical interaction.
And "non-life" is being turned into "life" everyday through chemistry. Ever eat anything?
An atheistic worldview would be impossible to change without God's intervention.
Then why bother? (I always wonder why a Calvinist would bother with anything...)
Chris,
"Then why bother?"
We are told to preach so we do. To think we can change people's worldviews with charismatic words is comical. Otherwise there would be no such thing as an Atheist. We would talk their ears off.
"Until the Holy Spirit regenerates the sinner and brings him to repentance, his presuppositions will remain unaltered. And as long as the unbeliever's presuppositions are unchanged a proper acceptance and understanding of the good news of Christ's historical resurrection will be impossible." Dr. Bahnsen
Everyone keeps calling me a Calvinist. I like things Martin Luther said, am I a Lutheran also? I did love what Dr. Bahnsen said so does that make me a Bahnsenist too?
Nope, I am a Christian and defined in God's Word.
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