Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Ugh, atheists - They’re like little children

I don’t usually stop by Ray Comfort’s blog but I did so a few days ago. Over four dozen atheists thought it important to take the time to mock Ray for believing in a God that would allow a place like hell to exist. ‘Only a monster,’ they said, ‘would create a place like that.’

Well, it’s not so much that God made a place like Hell. He’s just made a place where people don’t have to be around Him. In fact, He’s reserved a special place, somewhat like a no smoking section, where atheists will finally be totally free from God’s influence. True, they have to go outside God's Kingdom to do their thing. And it's true that they have to stay there, but . . . Still, when it’s properly understood, it’s like atheists are saying to God, “How dare you create a place to exist where you AREN’T present!”

That’s what’s so confusing. Atheists hate the very concept of God. They want His name removed from society. The don’t want to have to think about Him, hear about Him, or see any reference to Him. Atheists, like America’s haemorrhoid Michael Newdow, want to be completely free from anything that has to do with Creator God. So when God provides a place where they can get exactly what they want, when God grants their wish, when God says to atheists, “Thy will be done,” they wail, “How can He do this to me? What kind of monster are you?” I know. I know. I’m being facetious. What atheists are really complaining about are the conditions that they’ll have to put up with in Hell. Hell isn’t a very nice place. In fact, it’s down right awful. Atheists read the brochure for Hell and demand that major renovations take place before they have to move in. On the up-side, you can’t say you weren’t warned. God has been very upfront about your destination. You know in advance that there won’t be any ocean view. And, you still have a chance to upgrade. It's not too late.

I suppose atheists simply don’t understand the spiritual realities involved here. Atheists seem to not understand that God did not create Hell to be a “horrific place.” Hell is a horrific place simply because God’s love, God’s influence, will be completely absent. It appears that atheists would like God to create a beautiful, peaceful place for them where they can exist in the absence of God, but that is simply not possible.
Beauty and the absence of God are mutually exclusive.
Peace and the absence of God are mutually exclusive.
Let me explain.

Just as there cannot be the perception of up without a down, in without an out, hot without cold and light without darkness, there cannot be Love without evil. This is a spiritual reality or law. With God there is love. Without God there is evil. To the degree that the essence of God is present, to that degree will evil be absent.

Atheists don’t seem to realise that the only thing that makes possible for any type of love or joy or peace, even in their own lives specifically, or just on planet earth generally is the fact that our Creator is, to some degree, keeping evil at bay. His presence, where ever and to the degree that it exists, forces evil back against the wall. This is true for believer and non believer alike. Now, God’s decrees are “written on hearts.” We are hardwired to KNOW objective right from wrong. Whether we believe in God or not, to the extent that we follow His objective morals, values and obligations, to that extent will we and those around us experience peace and joy. Whether we believe in or acknowledge Creator God or not, “All good things and every perfect gift is from above, coming down to us from the Father (Creator) of heavenly lights in whom there is no changing or shifting like shadows.”

Atheists of course want to rid the world of all reference to and influence from our Creator. And yet, although they’ve read about hell and heard about conditions in hell, they seem to have no idea what they’re asking for.

. Hell is the complete absence of God.

. Atheists think they want the complete absence of God.

For every atheist posting today, sometime between today and a few decades from now, you will see your goal accomplished. You will experience complete separation from Creator God.

Remember though. You can’t act surprised when you get there. You’ve seen the brochure. You have been warned far, far in advance that life in the total absence of God is just a little bit this side of unbearable. Jesus tells us that existing in the complete absence of God’s love will feel like being burned alive. Why would that be? Well, at some point in the near future, those who have longed for and worked for the complete absence of God’s love will exist in:

. The complete absence of Good

. The total, all pervasive presence of evil

. Absolute fear

. Unmitigated hatred and rage

. Total and unending darkness

. Unrelieved sorrow

. Unequivocal alone-ness

. Absolute shame

. Unbounded regret

. Undiluted violence.

. Sheer panic
. Unrelenting dissatisfaction

. All encompassing meanness

. Overwhelming stench

. Total betrayal

. There will be no freedom from pain, only total, all consuming, overwhelming pain.

The most dangerous conditions on earth don’t come close. God did not “create” these conditions. These are simply the conditions that exist when the essence of God is completely absent. That is what atheists say they want - the complete absence of God.

Hell is the destination for people who have finally come to the end of a journey, the main focus of which, the main direction of which has been to live a life without humbling yourself before Creator God.

If you long to be free from the presence of God during your life on earth, then Hell is nothing but the ONLY destination you could possibly reach given the road upon which you’ve chosen to travel.

Right now, even as I write this, millions of people are suffering a special kind of torment as they are in a hell that they refused to believe in. Their special torment is that they convinced spouses, children, friends, students and other ‘open-minded’ people that hell didn’t exist. Or, like singer Billy Joel, they’ve convinced millions of people that being in hell will be a lot more fun than the alternative. And now there is no way to turn back the clock. There is no way to warn their loved-ones about the horrendous consequences of following that error.

Of course hell need not be something that you even think about, much less experience. Jesus, at His own expense has made it possible for anyone who wants to be forever rescued from hell and to spend eternity in the midst of God’s Love.

If you choose to travel this earthly stage of life WITH Jesus, then Heaven is nothing but the only destination you could possibly reach given the road upon which you’ve chosen to travel. I hope to see you there.

8 comments:

Volker The Fiddler said...

Oh, Makarios!

Makarios said...

Oh Fiddler, now what are you brooding about?

Kylyssa Shay said...

Why do you assume everyone thinks God is real?

I don't care what you believe, if you like to believe people will be eternally tortured for not believing as you do, that's up to you.

Atheists don't care if you think that we will be tortured eternally.

If God is real and knows everything then why would He punish people with eternal torment for honesty not thinking He or any other creature of myth were real? It's a lovely story, the God story, but that doesn't make it real. Everyone would love for God to be real. I would love for God to be real, but that doesn't make it so. A person can't force themselves to believe in fantasies just because they want to. One would need to think God were real to believe in Him.

And if you follow Jesus, why are you so full of hatred and venom?

PersonalFailure said...

"Place without god" is a really interesting way of spinning "eternal torture".

The opposite of love is indifference, not evil. Evil is the opposite of good. Good is not love.

I don't think you know what "reality" means.

I don't mind hearing about god, thinking about god, or other people believing in god. Believe away! Makes no never mind to me. What I do mind is being called evil. What I do mind is being called immoral. What I do mind is having your religion shoved down my throat. What I do mind is the unending attempts to legislate religion. What I do mind is the president of my country saying that atheists aren't citizens. (Bush, 2007.)

I really don't care what you believe. Just leave me out of it.

Makarios said...

“Why do you assume everyone thinks God is real?”

Do I assume that?
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“I don't care what you believe, if you like to believe people will be eternally tortured for not believing as you do, that's up to you.”

Well, first of all, the word torture is not used within the context of hell, in the Bible. Torment? Yes. Torture? No. Second is has nothing to do with what I believe. It does have everything to do with what Jesus taught. As the saying goes, you ignore that at your own peril.
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“Atheists don't care if you think that we will be tortured eternally.”

The atheists at Ray Comforts blog, the ones that I was writing about seemed to care quite a lot. For some reason, trying to warn people about what Jesus taught is seem as mean and hateful. I don't get that at all.
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“If God is real and knows everything then why would He punish people with eternal torment for honesty not thinking He or any other creature of myth were real?”

Because there is no reason to think that He isn't real. As He says, "No one is without excuse." The universe itself declares the necessity of a prime Cause. You can ignore the findings of science and declare that the universe doesn’t need a Cause but that doesn’t make it so.
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“And if you follow Jesus, why are you so full of hatred and venom?”

I just reread my post and I don’t see the venom. To what are you referring?
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“Place without god" is a really interesting way of spinning "eternal torture".

As above, the word torture isn’t actually used in describing hell. Although to be eternally separated from God will, regardless of what atheists think, be eternal torment for the reasons I described in the post.
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“The opposite of love is indifference, not evil. Evil is the opposite of good. Good is not love.”

I would suggest that Love specifically Agape love or “other-love” is the greatest good in the whole universe. It's what the world is most lacking.
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“I don't think you know what "reality" means.”

I’m thinking of “What is” as opposed to “What is not.”
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“What I do mind is having your religion shoved down my throat.”

Accommodations to meet your wishes are being made for that even as we speak.
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“What I do mind is the unending attempts to legislate religion.”

I agree. That doesn’t serve the interests of anyone.
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“What I do mind is the president of my country saying that atheists aren't citizens. (Bush, 2007.)”

That was pretty bad. What’s worse, I doubt that he regrets saying it.
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"What I do mind is being called evil. What I do mind is being called immoral."

Do you think there are people who ARE evil or immoral? I think that I am.

See, one of the problems that I have with atheism is that it requires the following line of thought:
. I don’t need God to be a good person.
. I don’t need God
. Therefore I must be a good person.

Can you see any potential problems with that kind of thinking?

Col.3:3 said...

One other thought about that total separation from God throughout eternity, those who experience it will also acknowledge that has been justly applied to them, the final result of their total freedom of choice. God is consistent in all He does,including allowing freedom to choose our final destinations.

I don't assume everyone thinks God is real, but I sure hope they do! It's the most important thing to find out about, this relationship with the eternal God. Our earthly lifetimes are very short in comparison with eternity.

KC said...

Wow it never ceases to amaze me what passes for reason in the mind of a the religious.

KC said...

Wow it never ceases to amaze me what passes for reason in the mind of a the religious.