Hmm, Anon beat me to it.
First of all, I want to thank you for the kind words of encouragement. What happened was my wife has Hashimoto Disease. It has to do with Thyroid anti-bodies which in turn triggered a really powerful flare-up of Rheumatoid Arthritis. She was virtually bed ridden with pain and extreme fatigue.
Running a blog while taking care of five little kids and the household on my own was just not an option. I thought that blogging had come to an end.
However many weeks it’s been later, Wendy is somewhat improved. She is on Prednisone and pain meds (hopefully neither for too long) which have given back some mobility and energy to her.
I’ve decided to blog again but no longer almost exclusively about atheism. For that reason (most people would associate this blog wih atheism) I’ve started a different blog “Thesauros” which is Greek for "Storehouse of information / wisdom."
It can be found at thesauros-store.blogspot.com
Again, thank you for your encouragement.
Tuesday, March 2, 2010
Wednesday, January 27, 2010
Misquote!
One of the most misquoted verses in the Bible is, “The love of money is A root of MANY kinds of evil.” I think you know how it usually goes. Another line, not from the Bible but misquoted nevertheless is, “Power TENDS to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” Lord Acton. I think you know how this one is usually presented as well.
People sometimes take that (mis) quote and use it as a means of suggesting that there is something wrong with power itself. Actually, Jesus talks more about the problem of power when it’s NOT used at all as opposed to power that is used improperly.
We live in a moral universe and that means, “Knowledge carries responsibility.” As Edmund Burke has said, Evil triumphs because good men and women refuse to do what’s needed.
On the other hand, when good men and women take action, other people who wish to be left alone in their support of evil, or in their lack of effort to stop evil, or to even accept that evil exists - these other people accuse those men and women of attempting to establish a theocracy. Those same people, who live on the periphery of reality say silly things like, “You can’t legislate morality.” Well, the fact is, we can and do legislate morality all the time. What else are we doing with laws like, Don’t steal, Don’t kill, Don’t drink alcohol before driving, Don’t have sex with little girls and boys, if not legislating morality?
I suppose because of my own childhood issues, and those of our children the topic of the sex trade, human trafficking and abuse in general catch my attention. In my mind, not doing anything about the sexualization of our children is just as evil as any potential power wielding of a corrupt theocracy. I mean, if you don’t care about what’s happening to our children, just exactly what DO you care about? You don’t need to answer that. I know the answer. The answer is, you care about yourself and your own selfish desires.
According to National Geographic, in the world TODAY there are 27 million slaves, real slaves. That’s more slaves than were taken from Africa during four hundred years of the North American slave trade.
Many millions of these slaves are working in the sex trade.
Many millions of THOSE are children.
Some are girls under five years of age, most 9 to 13.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1953379_1953494_1957160,00.html?cnn=yes&hpt=T2
There are places in the world today where children are openly sold for what amounts to rape - and that takes place in broad daylight with the permission and protection of the local police.
World leaders know about this.
Social organisations know about this.
You know about this.
Out of a fear that if we tell others what to do, others might tell us what to do, those who “live in the world” wind up doing nothing at all. They call it tolerance; a highly valued trait in today’s world of sin and let sin. May God have mercy when it comes time for us to answer for our do-nothing attitude.
We cannot allow those who wish to live by selective or relative morality to dictate to the rest of us that we should just ignore the plight of these souls. Atheists and the like say that what takes place between consenting adults should stay between consenting adults. This, with the full knowledge that most adults in the sex trade began their journey of sexualization as children which, as I’ve said before dictates that the very concept of consent as an adult is a farce. Only the profoundly ignorant believe these people have any real choice. In fact studies show conclusively that as a fact of the sex trade those who most want to remain in the trade or who want to return after having made an attempt to leave the trade are those who have been most abused (began the youngest, sold / put to work by their “caregivers,” who have been in the trade for a very long time) who are least able to make such a decision.
Consenting adult - “Oh, I think I’ll quit working as a prostitute and become a fashion designer or the CEO of some company, or maybe work as a nurse.” Ya. Right.
If power tends to corrupt, it is only because all people ARE corrupt. We are corrupt in our sins of commission and omission.
People sometimes take that (mis) quote and use it as a means of suggesting that there is something wrong with power itself. Actually, Jesus talks more about the problem of power when it’s NOT used at all as opposed to power that is used improperly.
We live in a moral universe and that means, “Knowledge carries responsibility.” As Edmund Burke has said, Evil triumphs because good men and women refuse to do what’s needed.
On the other hand, when good men and women take action, other people who wish to be left alone in their support of evil, or in their lack of effort to stop evil, or to even accept that evil exists - these other people accuse those men and women of attempting to establish a theocracy. Those same people, who live on the periphery of reality say silly things like, “You can’t legislate morality.” Well, the fact is, we can and do legislate morality all the time. What else are we doing with laws like, Don’t steal, Don’t kill, Don’t drink alcohol before driving, Don’t have sex with little girls and boys, if not legislating morality?
I suppose because of my own childhood issues, and those of our children the topic of the sex trade, human trafficking and abuse in general catch my attention. In my mind, not doing anything about the sexualization of our children is just as evil as any potential power wielding of a corrupt theocracy. I mean, if you don’t care about what’s happening to our children, just exactly what DO you care about? You don’t need to answer that. I know the answer. The answer is, you care about yourself and your own selfish desires.
According to National Geographic, in the world TODAY there are 27 million slaves, real slaves. That’s more slaves than were taken from Africa during four hundred years of the North American slave trade.
Many millions of these slaves are working in the sex trade.
Many millions of THOSE are children.
Some are girls under five years of age, most 9 to 13.
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1953379_1953494_1957160,00.html?cnn=yes&hpt=T2
There are places in the world today where children are openly sold for what amounts to rape - and that takes place in broad daylight with the permission and protection of the local police.
World leaders know about this.
Social organisations know about this.
You know about this.
Out of a fear that if we tell others what to do, others might tell us what to do, those who “live in the world” wind up doing nothing at all. They call it tolerance; a highly valued trait in today’s world of sin and let sin. May God have mercy when it comes time for us to answer for our do-nothing attitude.
We cannot allow those who wish to live by selective or relative morality to dictate to the rest of us that we should just ignore the plight of these souls. Atheists and the like say that what takes place between consenting adults should stay between consenting adults. This, with the full knowledge that most adults in the sex trade began their journey of sexualization as children which, as I’ve said before dictates that the very concept of consent as an adult is a farce. Only the profoundly ignorant believe these people have any real choice. In fact studies show conclusively that as a fact of the sex trade those who most want to remain in the trade or who want to return after having made an attempt to leave the trade are those who have been most abused (began the youngest, sold / put to work by their “caregivers,” who have been in the trade for a very long time) who are least able to make such a decision.
Consenting adult - “Oh, I think I’ll quit working as a prostitute and become a fashion designer or the CEO of some company, or maybe work as a nurse.” Ya. Right.
If power tends to corrupt, it is only because all people ARE corrupt. We are corrupt in our sins of commission and omission.
Believing in and adhering to the objective morals, values and obligations of the Christian paradigm protects us from believing lies like “Anything that feels so good can’t be wrong.”
Many a marriage has been torn apart and millions of children’s lives have been irrevocably damaged by men and women believing that the “love” they feel for someone other than their partner can’t be wrong because it feels so right.
Ignoring the objective morals, values and obligations with which we are born leaves us defenceless to argue against what we feel.
But that’s relativism for you.
Many a marriage has been torn apart and millions of children’s lives have been irrevocably damaged by men and women believing that the “love” they feel for someone other than their partner can’t be wrong because it feels so right.
Ignoring the objective morals, values and obligations with which we are born leaves us defenceless to argue against what we feel.
But that’s relativism for you.
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Good Without God
Have you ever met someone who doesn’t believe in God who sees h/herself as NOT being a good person?
No, of course not.
And you never will.
When we invent our own moral system of right and wrong, we always invent a system that ensures that “we” pass.
This fact alone give us a glimpse of how inherently corrupt and evil we actually are.
No, of course not.
And you never will.
When we invent our own moral system of right and wrong, we always invent a system that ensures that “we” pass.
This fact alone give us a glimpse of how inherently corrupt and evil we actually are.
Islamic Bloggers
Saw this blog, written from the perspective of a Muslim view of the world.
Admittedly we in the West give Muslims a lot of material to criticise. Like atheists (I get to say that A LOT when writing about Islam and those who follow it), Muslim extremists see all crimes and exploitation as coming from Christians. One comment on this blog was:
"We here at this blog give you news from all of the holy spirit guided christian activity"
Mmm, not exactly, Galatians 5:22,23 gives you as clear a description that is possible to give of Holy Spirit guided activities.
Verses 19 - 21 give a description of thoughts and behaviours that are in opposition to the Holy Spirit.
Like atheists, followers of Islam take the latter and say it is the former.
Like atheists, biased, bigoted and stupid people believe them.
Admittedly we in the West give Muslims a lot of material to criticise. Like atheists (I get to say that A LOT when writing about Islam and those who follow it), Muslim extremists see all crimes and exploitation as coming from Christians. One comment on this blog was:
"We here at this blog give you news from all of the holy spirit guided christian activity"
Mmm, not exactly, Galatians 5:22,23 gives you as clear a description that is possible to give of Holy Spirit guided activities.
Verses 19 - 21 give a description of thoughts and behaviours that are in opposition to the Holy Spirit.
Like atheists, followers of Islam take the latter and say it is the former.
Like atheists, biased, bigoted and stupid people believe them.
FRIEDRICH NIETZSCHE
"He believed that the values of self-sacrifice inherent in Christianity undermined the cultural development; that democracy and socialism, which treated all people equally, stifled individual creativity and genius; and that universal suffrage gave power to the masses. Therefore, it was up to exceptional individuals to take leadership. He outlined his plan for a new generation of “supermen” who “were free from sentimental inhibitions and prepared …to use violence in the building of a new, nobler world.” (Hitler was one of his most committed followers).
"Thus Spake Zarathustra" (1883-1884). Cited in Christopher, J.R., Wittet, G.G., Modern Western Civilization. Toronto: Oxford University Press, 1991, 214.
"Thus Spake Zarathustra" (1883-1884). Cited in Christopher, J.R., Wittet, G.G., Modern Western Civilization. Toronto: Oxford University Press, 1991, 214.
Boulder as big as a house
Some family in Germany built their house under a boulder as big as their house.
Guess what happened.
If you like to read funny comments (black humour) about a story, this is a good one.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/26/boulder-germany-home.html#socialcomments
Guess what happened.
If you like to read funny comments (black humour) about a story, this is a good one.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/01/26/boulder-germany-home.html#socialcomments
Burqa Ban in France
It's no wonder women love us men so much.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/26/france.burqa.ban/index.html?hpt=T2
In some countries (Islam) men MAKE women wear a burqa even if they DON'T want to wear it, and in other countries (atheist) men WON'T LET woman wear a burqa even if they DO want to wear it.
The similarities between Islam and atheism are numerous and striking.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/26/france.burqa.ban/index.html?hpt=T2
In some countries (Islam) men MAKE women wear a burqa even if they DON'T want to wear it, and in other countries (atheist) men WON'T LET woman wear a burqa even if they DO want to wear it.
The similarities between Islam and atheism are numerous and striking.
Last week I came across this passage in G.K. Chesterton’s book Orthodoxy. While opposing turn-of-the-Century British Modernism, he maintains that he is still a rationalist, and so provides a very rational answer:
"If I am asked, as a purely intellectual question, why I believe in Christianity, I can only answer, “For the same reason that an intelligent agnostic disbelieves in Christianity.”
I believe in it quite rationally upon the evidence. But the evidence in my case, as in that of the intelligent agnostic, is not really in this or that alleged demonstration; it is in an enormous accumulation of small but unanimous facts.
The secularist is not to be blamed because his objections to Christianity are miscellaneous and even scrappy; it is precisely such scrappy evidence that does convince the mind. I mean that a man may well be less convinced of a philosophy from four books, than from one book, one battle, one landscape, and one old friend. The very fact that the things are of different kinds increases the importance of the fact that they all point to one conclusion.
Now, the non-Christianity of the average educated man to-day is almost always, to do him justice, made up of these loose but living experiences. I can only say that my evidences for Christianity are of the same vivid but varied kind as his evidences against it. For when I look at these various anti-Christian truths, I simply discover that none of them are true.
I discover that the true tide and force of all the facts flows the other way."
"If I am asked, as a purely intellectual question, why I believe in Christianity, I can only answer, “For the same reason that an intelligent agnostic disbelieves in Christianity.”
I believe in it quite rationally upon the evidence. But the evidence in my case, as in that of the intelligent agnostic, is not really in this or that alleged demonstration; it is in an enormous accumulation of small but unanimous facts.
The secularist is not to be blamed because his objections to Christianity are miscellaneous and even scrappy; it is precisely such scrappy evidence that does convince the mind. I mean that a man may well be less convinced of a philosophy from four books, than from one book, one battle, one landscape, and one old friend. The very fact that the things are of different kinds increases the importance of the fact that they all point to one conclusion.
Now, the non-Christianity of the average educated man to-day is almost always, to do him justice, made up of these loose but living experiences. I can only say that my evidences for Christianity are of the same vivid but varied kind as his evidences against it. For when I look at these various anti-Christian truths, I simply discover that none of them are true.
I discover that the true tide and force of all the facts flows the other way."
Monday, January 25, 2010
Tim Tebow
Tim Tebow is glad that his mother didn’t kill him.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/story/2010/01/25/sp-nfl-superbowl-tebow.html
Ignoring her doctor’s suggestion that she abort her fifth child, Tim’s mother gave birth to her son instead. Today, Tim is a star athlete and by all accounts a fine man.
He is also glad to be alive.
He wants to tell people that he’s glad to be alive.
Some people don’t want that to happen.
Jemhu Greene, president of the Women's Media Center and representing secular (secular = Demanding a separation from God in all areas of life) people of the world, said the pro family ad that is scheduled to air during the Super Bowl is ACTUALLY an anti abortion ad. Of course. Pro family equals anti abortion.
Secularists don’t want anything supporting the life of the pre born being seen on national television.
Sad - but predictable.
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/story/2010/01/25/sp-nfl-superbowl-tebow.html
Ignoring her doctor’s suggestion that she abort her fifth child, Tim’s mother gave birth to her son instead. Today, Tim is a star athlete and by all accounts a fine man.
He is also glad to be alive.
He wants to tell people that he’s glad to be alive.
Some people don’t want that to happen.
Jemhu Greene, president of the Women's Media Center and representing secular (secular = Demanding a separation from God in all areas of life) people of the world, said the pro family ad that is scheduled to air during the Super Bowl is ACTUALLY an anti abortion ad. Of course. Pro family equals anti abortion.
Secularists don’t want anything supporting the life of the pre born being seen on national television.
Sad - but predictable.
Even the Pagans
A guy named Matthew recorded what are perhaps Jesus’ most profound and challenging words. It’s often called the Beatitudes, and in one part Jesus is explaining to us that “even pagans can love those who love them back.”
Isn’t that the truth? Sometimes I encounter someone who is, well, let me use one guy’s own words, “People either love me or hate me. And nobody loves me.” I actually like the guy but I’ve met others who I just could not find any aspect that allowed me to appreciate who they were.
Because God does so with us, we too are to love those who simply are not loveable.
What sometimes happens, if we’re lucky, is we find someone who is difficult to love, and WHEN we see or hear something that we like, we move toward civility. And then we pat ourselves on the back. “Wow,” we commend ourselves. “That is such a difficult person. I don’t know anyone who likes her, yet I can be kind to her. I’m a pretty good person.”
Truth is, you don’t need God, or faith to do that. You don’t even need to be a decent human being to do that. When people do what we want or say, or when they look or sound how we want, well, even a pagan can love someone like that.
We are to love as God loves. God loves His enemies. God loves those who hate Him. God loves those who try to convince others that He doesn’t exist.
God does not love us because of who we are.
God loves us because of who He is.
God is love.
The reality is, loving our enemies, doing good to those who persecute us, praying for the good of those who persecute us is a supernatural gift. It is not something that we can do on our own. Yet without this kind of love taking place our world, our civilization is doomed.
Doing what’s normal is not good enough.
Isn’t that the truth? Sometimes I encounter someone who is, well, let me use one guy’s own words, “People either love me or hate me. And nobody loves me.” I actually like the guy but I’ve met others who I just could not find any aspect that allowed me to appreciate who they were.
Because God does so with us, we too are to love those who simply are not loveable.
What sometimes happens, if we’re lucky, is we find someone who is difficult to love, and WHEN we see or hear something that we like, we move toward civility. And then we pat ourselves on the back. “Wow,” we commend ourselves. “That is such a difficult person. I don’t know anyone who likes her, yet I can be kind to her. I’m a pretty good person.”
Truth is, you don’t need God, or faith to do that. You don’t even need to be a decent human being to do that. When people do what we want or say, or when they look or sound how we want, well, even a pagan can love someone like that.
We are to love as God loves. God loves His enemies. God loves those who hate Him. God loves those who try to convince others that He doesn’t exist.
God does not love us because of who we are.
God loves us because of who He is.
God is love.
The reality is, loving our enemies, doing good to those who persecute us, praying for the good of those who persecute us is a supernatural gift. It is not something that we can do on our own. Yet without this kind of love taking place our world, our civilization is doomed.
Doing what’s normal is not good enough.
Back Again
Good weekend at the hockey tournament. The kids did really good - came in second. Had to spend an extra night at the hotel because of a nasty storm. Travelling from the hotel to the rink was treacherous and the other families were sooo nice, so attentive, caring. It was then that I realised -
‘I’m thirty years older than these other parents of their nine-year-olds. They’re taking care of the elderly man in the group; making sure that the old man is ok.’
It was nice in a weird sort of way.
The logistics of five little kids in a hockey rink in a different city for three days was not doable so Wendy stayed home with the other kids. Our town got the same storm as the one that kept me away. While I was gone, someone came over and shovelled the driveway for Wendy.
I’ve sure been blessed with knowing a lot of nice people.
‘I’m thirty years older than these other parents of their nine-year-olds. They’re taking care of the elderly man in the group; making sure that the old man is ok.’
It was nice in a weird sort of way.
The logistics of five little kids in a hockey rink in a different city for three days was not doable so Wendy stayed home with the other kids. Our town got the same storm as the one that kept me away. While I was gone, someone came over and shovelled the driveway for Wendy.
I’ve sure been blessed with knowing a lot of nice people.
Thursday, January 21, 2010
Social Darwinism
If somebody used my views to justify a completely self - centred lifestyle, which involved trampling all over other people in any way they chose, roughly what I suppose, at a sociological level social Darwinists did - I think I would be fairly hard put to argue against it on purely intellectual grounds. I think it would be more: “This is not a society in which I wish to live. Without having a rational reason for it necessarily, I'm going to do whatever I can to stop you doing this.”
I couldn't, ultimately, argue intellectually against somebody who did something I found obnoxious. I think I could finally only say, “Well, in this society you can't get away with it’ and call the police.”
I realise this is very weak, and I've said I don't feel equipped to produce moral arguments in the way I feel equipped to produce arguments of a cosmological and biological kind.
Nick Pollard talks to Dr. Richard Dawkins
I couldn't, ultimately, argue intellectually against somebody who did something I found obnoxious. I think I could finally only say, “Well, in this society you can't get away with it’ and call the police.”
I realise this is very weak, and I've said I don't feel equipped to produce moral arguments in the way I feel equipped to produce arguments of a cosmological and biological kind.
Nick Pollard talks to Dr. Richard Dawkins
Funny? Shameful? OR Stupid?
1) Arizona Atheist: ‘Red light cameras are a bad idea for two reasons -
One, the police are using them for surveillance.
Two, when people slam on their brakes so as not to be caught running a red light, others from behind are crashing into them.’
I'm not kidding. That's what he wrote.
A.A. doesn’t blame the accidents on the second driver tailgating with the intention of running the red light along with the guy in front of him (hence the need for the cameras in the first place).
A.A. lays the blame for accidents on the cameras themselves.
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2) Random atheist: This guy says that speed traps create dangerous driving conditions. As this atheist described it - “The guy in front of me had to slow down from 120kms to 50kms in a very short distance to avoid getting a ticket. I almost crashed into him.”
R.A. is following a guy @ 70kms over the speed limit and he blames the “Peace Officers” (as he put in quotation - signifying sarcasm) for almost “causing” an accident.
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3) In a post “Endless Possibilities,” I talked about human trafficking and the sex trade. I described this as a tragedy that is supported and endorsed by those who adhere to situational ethics and selective morality; a world-view in fact that cannot bring itself with any conviction, coherence or logic to say that ANYTHING is right or wrong. Atheism drives a philosophy, under the banner of pseudo tolerance, which states, “You don’t judge me and I won’t judge you.”
Nothing! Absolutely nothing in defence, unless you count peurile jokes and strawman changing of the subject.
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4) Atheists on one of my posts are telling me that social Darwinism isn’t really Darwinism.
I ask, “What is that wrong with Social Darwinism; eugenics etc.? It wouldn't be hard to make a case, in a world of limited resources, that the weak and defective simply should not take away from the genetically strong. If it isn't wrong for other animals, why is it wrong for human animals?”
No one. Not one atheist has an answered - On atheism there ISN’T an answer as to why this action is right and that action is wrong.
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I’ll let you decide whether these vignettes present atheism as funny, shameful, stupid or a combination of all three - All I know is, they present attitudes that sure are common to those holding to atheism.
One, the police are using them for surveillance.
Two, when people slam on their brakes so as not to be caught running a red light, others from behind are crashing into them.’
I'm not kidding. That's what he wrote.
A.A. doesn’t blame the accidents on the second driver tailgating with the intention of running the red light along with the guy in front of him (hence the need for the cameras in the first place).
A.A. lays the blame for accidents on the cameras themselves.
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2) Random atheist: This guy says that speed traps create dangerous driving conditions. As this atheist described it - “The guy in front of me had to slow down from 120kms to 50kms in a very short distance to avoid getting a ticket. I almost crashed into him.”
R.A. is following a guy @ 70kms over the speed limit and he blames the “Peace Officers” (as he put in quotation - signifying sarcasm) for almost “causing” an accident.
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3) In a post “Endless Possibilities,” I talked about human trafficking and the sex trade. I described this as a tragedy that is supported and endorsed by those who adhere to situational ethics and selective morality; a world-view in fact that cannot bring itself with any conviction, coherence or logic to say that ANYTHING is right or wrong. Atheism drives a philosophy, under the banner of pseudo tolerance, which states, “You don’t judge me and I won’t judge you.”
Nothing! Absolutely nothing in defence, unless you count peurile jokes and strawman changing of the subject.
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4) Atheists on one of my posts are telling me that social Darwinism isn’t really Darwinism.
I ask, “What is that wrong with Social Darwinism; eugenics etc.? It wouldn't be hard to make a case, in a world of limited resources, that the weak and defective simply should not take away from the genetically strong. If it isn't wrong for other animals, why is it wrong for human animals?”
No one. Not one atheist has an answered - On atheism there ISN’T an answer as to why this action is right and that action is wrong.
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I’ll let you decide whether these vignettes present atheism as funny, shameful, stupid or a combination of all three - All I know is, they present attitudes that sure are common to those holding to atheism.
Do You Know Anyone
Do you know anyone BUT atheists who think that the Old Testament Covenant still applies to how Christians should live today? Anyone? Anyone at all?
No. I didn’t think so.
Atheists, the ones who deny the existence of God.
Atheists, the ones who deride the Bible as a worthless Bronze Age Book.
Atheists, the ones who tell followers of Jesus how they should be living their lives.
Over the last year or so, I’ve posted, almost on a daily basis, verses from the Old Testament (atheists don’t even know that the New Testament exists) that appeal to followers of God to show mercy, fairness, kindness, and gentleness to aliens, neighbours, family and servants. 100's of verses have been posted.
Yet -
Atheists tell Christians that if they aren’t stoning their disobedient children, they are somehow not following God.
Do you know anyone with the logic of atheists?
No. I didn’t think so.
Atheists, the ones who deny the existence of God.
Atheists, the ones who deride the Bible as a worthless Bronze Age Book.
Atheists, the ones who tell followers of Jesus how they should be living their lives.
Over the last year or so, I’ve posted, almost on a daily basis, verses from the Old Testament (atheists don’t even know that the New Testament exists) that appeal to followers of God to show mercy, fairness, kindness, and gentleness to aliens, neighbours, family and servants. 100's of verses have been posted.
Yet -
Atheists tell Christians that if they aren’t stoning their disobedient children, they are somehow not following God.
Do you know anyone with the logic of atheists?
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